VDCT Bugs and Features Page

Bugs

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Proposed Bug-Fix and Schematic Capture development package

A result of a poll of the community indicated that adoption would be far more widespread if the largest bugs were removed and work was done to upgrade VDCT's capability as a basic spreadsheet package. A consolidated list of bugs and feature requests have been drawn up and priorities assigned on this basis. Specifically, the priorities are:

Priority	Meaning
0	Probably funded via another means
1	Functionality essential to a schematic capture tool - i.e. it would be seen as a bug in a traditional schematic capture tool
2	Useful functionality that improves VDCT as a database configuration tool
3	Useful functionality, but may require greater thought or co-ordination with EPICS V4 development
4	Potentially useful functionality, but not too essential to the core function of a DCT. Also irreproducible bugs
5	Functionality that is not required since the solution is already available or provided in another way.

Bearing this priority list in mind, we have decided to develop a package aimed at addressing priorities 1 and 2 only. It is interesting to note that even this limited package amounts to 41 work days, which is considerably larger tham most of the other VDCT development packages - highlighting that the devil is in the details.

The consolidated list of bugs and features is as follows:

Ref #	Name	Bug or Feature	Description	Time Estimate (days)	Proposed by	Priority	Comment
1021	Make a non-modal property dialog as a separate tiled or floating window	Feature	As it is e.g. in Word for setting diverse properties When a record is selected, it's properties are shown in this windows; If several records are selected, only the properties that are common to all are shown and by entering a value, it is applied to all records; Two-way editing: if a new link is entered in the property sheet, it is also displayed on the canvas. This is very useful for people working with two screens, so they don't have to scroll around the canvas	3	BESSY	0	Do not understand. If I add an inspector a feature of point 3, all this will be covered. Is this true? Estimate for point 3 given (for inspector).
1	Spreadsheet view and editor for records and templates	Feature	Provide a spread sheet view for the records. Provide one table for each record and template type. The tables should be on a tabbed pane - one table per tab. The table should have one record or template instance per row. The columns are: record or template name, followed by all the fields. All the cells are editable. For ENUMS use combos - reuse implementation of renderers and editors from the property inspector. It should be customizable which fields to display, the settings for this are saved on the level of a vdb file. In the first approximation, all the fields that are seen in the property inspector (these are all the fields that can be edited) should be displayed.	15	SLAC (Bob Dalesio)	0	If multiple record types are selected, the inspector could display the intersection set of available editable fields.
2	Improve documentation.	Feature	Have a tutorial/quick start guide available on line. (Could be produced by someone in the community.) Expand manual - the manual is good, but brief. It could use some expansion. Could be produced by someone in the community.		Various	0	Improve the documentation from the user point of view. This may be done by a separate contract
12121	Addpath command functionality	Bug	The addpath command in the dbd file is interpreted as specifying relative paths to be concatenated with the absolute paths specified in the path command. In fact, the definition of addpath in EPICS is that they are just additional paths. (I think the only reason for doing it this way was there wasn't the syntax to do path "${path}:/new/directory/here". (Note: The addpath functionality as implemented is potentially useful, but is wrong - it should be implemented as a different command and built into dbExpand).	0.25	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
12369	Import of databases doesn't work	Bug	If you try and import a database into another database it simply doesn't work.	0.25	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
APS1	Hide value on copied records	Bug	When a record is copied, the setting "Hide value of valid links", and per-field hide-value settings made in Inspector are not honored until the Settings dialog is called up and put away, or the file is saved and reopened.	0.25	APS (David Kline)	1
APS3	Position of pasted record	Bug	When a record is pasted, it frequently is placed *far* off screen, so you have to zoom out, grab the record, drag it to near where you were working, and zoom back in. This doesn't always happen, and I haven't been able to figure out what triggers the behavior.	0.25	APS (David Kline)	1	The inconsistency is certainly unacceptable from a user interface point of view, but it may not be a true bug. Should be fixed and record should be pasted at the mouse focus.
12122	Macro orientation when connection more than one wire	Bug	When connecting more than one wire to a macro, the macro always reverts to the default orientation. It should be oriented in the natural direction for the majority of the wires.	0.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
12123	Issues when un-doing a move	Bug	Fix problems with undo/redo. Sometimes when you undo a move the objects don't go back in the same place.	0.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
12129	SCAN field is not a valid input when connecting from a port	Bug	The SCAN field doesn't show up as an allowable input variable when trying to connect to a record from a hierarchical port. You can work around this by connecting from another's record output link to a SCAN field is to make the SCAN visible as a connection anchor, then connecting the hierarchical port, then deleting the temporary connection.	0.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
8596	Bug in Visual DCT morph	Bug	If you morph a record to something and you do 'undo' afther, the record goes back to previous record type but fiedls that are common to both records type remain on record. That means that you have two DESC fields and two PINI ... This is only display issue becaiuse saved file is OK. If you reload the template problem disappears.	0.5	Gasper Jansa (Cosylab)	1
APS2	Copied record set links	Bug	When a set of records with links is copied and pasted, all the new records are linked to records in the set from which they were copied. If the link is to a record not in the set being copied, this seems the right thing to do, but if it's to a record in the set, I can't imagine a case for which this would be the desired behavior.	0.5	APS (David Kline)	1
APS4	Records move when db is saved	Bug	When a database is saved, records are sometimes moved around. I can't figure out what distinguishes records that get moved from those that don't, but the same recoords get moved consistently.	0.5	APS (David Kline)	1	Send us the database to reproduce and find a pattern (bug).
12126	Problem with hidden fields	Bug	When some fields are marked as not visible as connection points in a template instantiation in a hierarchy, they seem to be hidden under a visible connection point and come to the front when the cursor hovers over them. Then when you add a connector, the connector doesn't get added to the visible wire and connection point, but to the hidden one.	1	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
12124	Objects change relative distances while being dragged together	Bug	Dragging multiple objects sometimes ends up with some objects moving a different distance than others. This seems to be related to objects changing their snap point at different times, but if all objects start off snapped to grid, then they should all change their snap point at the same time. This problem also results in horizontal lines being non-horizontal after a move, since the endpoints snap at different times.	1.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1	This (and 12123) seems to boil down to what internal position is stored for a component. I believe it should reflect what is displayed - so components which were last moved in snap mode should reflect the snapped position, but if you move an object in un-snapped mode it should reflect the un-snapped position. This is the most common model for drawing packages. Components should always be drawn at their internally stored position.
12127	Wire anchors on templates are not preserved when saving	Bug	Wire anchor connectors that are connected to a template instantiation in a hierarchy don't get preserved through a save/restore cycle.	1.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
12130	Not possible to add a connection anchor point to a wire connecting a record field and an external port or macro	Bug	You can't add a connection anchor point to a wire connecting a record field and an external port or macro. Currently, this isn't possible because you need to click on the link field in the record to add a connector, but these wires don't have a link field.	1.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
8731	VDCT: mess with the template links	Bug	When I create a template (hierarchies) and instantiate it in a bigger level template, I reorder links (macros, ports...) so that they look nice (left side, right side...). When I copy the template (CTRL+C, CTRL+V), my nice arrangement gets messed up.	2	Rok Sabjan (Cosylab)	1
11385	Visual DCT breaks in Mac OS 10.4	Bug	The last build available on the web site is not compatible with the recently released Mac OS 10.4.	3	Steve Shoaf (APS)	1
6	Save on traverse	Feature	Implement an option to save the current file if the file is changed and you are traversing the hierarchy tree. At the moment you can only elect: to not save then traverse, or to cancel the traverse. We would like to save then traverse.	0.125	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1	Trivial and useful. Only have to think about the correct default.
11	Improve printing	Feature	Omit wire anchors on printing.	0.25	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1
3	If dbd not present, DTYP information is gone	Feature	If dbd is not found by the db any more (i.e. it was moved elsewhere), VDCT comments out the existing DTYP fields for the entire database and leaves it like this even it the dbd is added again. VDCT should not comment them out, it should only provide a warning.	0.5	Cosylab (Gasper Jansa)	1	This is really a bug. The database should not be corrupted just because the dbd file is not found.
4	Make it easier to grab connectors inside objects.	Feature	Allow you to select lines and wire segments by clicking on the line, not just the anchor. I can't see the connector until I get lucky and happen to mouse directly over it.	0.5	SNS	1	Functionality problem! It is difficult to grab a connector if it lays under a bigger object (While the selected object is moved to front it covers the wire and connector)
5	Read appInclude.dbd files with #include's	Feature	Using a locally referenced RELEASE file to find the include files. "Relatively referenced" means ../../configure/RELEASE. (Other proposals with a similar goals are to add an environment variable search path for .vdb files used in the hierarchy so you can store useful modules in a central location, plus to respect the EPICS_DB_INCLUDE_PATH in dbd file expansion.)	0.5	SNS	1	The EPICS_DB_INCLUDE_PATH environment variable cannot be read by all versions of Java. Proposed that the necessary information can be passed as a parameter from the command line, and can be generated in the startup script. (The estimated time to do this any other way is large)
8	Move text on macros	Feature	It should be possible to place the text on macros to be on the side opposite the wire connection point	0.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1	Having the text on the side is useful when there is a whole line of macros stacked vertically.
12	Building	Feature	Make build from source easier and more reliable. (Note: This now seems to be fixed, but could be better documented)	0.5	Philip Taylor (OSL)	1	It should be possible to build VDCT without access to the Common project. Build scripts for plug-ins and VDCT-Common should also exist.
7	Eliminate steps in wires	Feature	Eliminate all the small, fractional grid size steps in wires going to off-page connectors and objects. The best way to do this is to ensure that if an object is snapped to the grid, then all anchors on the object are also are snapped to the grid (i.e. are on one of the horizontal lines of the grid).	1	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1	Certain objects (eg. Macro) are not of the size of the grid - but the wire connection point should line up with other wire connection points.
9	More wiring issues	Feature	Do not draw lines over each other, mark connections clearly different from crossings, easier way to control routing manually.	1.5	Ralph Lange (BESSY)	1	There should be a dot where-ever two wires merge to become one
121	Control of which side a wire connects to a record	Feature	Need better way of controlling which side the link is coming out of. Sometimes I have difficulty getting the link to point the right way just adding new handles.	2	APS (David Kline)	1	Use Shift+right mouse button to change link direction. See related bug #12122. This is possible only if having more than one link connected, otherwise side is chosen by VDCT (but you can have control over it using wire anchors). It is not possible to handle all (everyone) wishes with automatical/manual layout. So I suggest to have automatic with manual override possible (this will require to add a additional info to the graphical data).
10	Borders	Feature	Allow drawing borders (just like the borders around mechanical and electrical engineering drawings) which have author, id, name and change blocks. They will consist of lines, rectangles and text blocks, but no records. Once merged, the block should remain as a single block but, ideally, the text should be editable. (These should be implemented as drawings you can merge in with an existing drawing.) This could possibly be done by adding a more comprehensive functionality to merge drawings. It might be done by allowing access to the include statement, but making included objects largely read-only, so the include statement remains in the .vdb file, instead of getting expanded)	5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	1	The border can be drawn by the tools that are already implemented in VDCT. However, imports of other vdb files currently doesn't work, and don't import graphics and text. There is also no way of grouping graphics and text so they are moved as one.
12296	Problems with find feature in VisualDCT	Bug	"Find" feature in VDCT build 1257: Does not execute on "ENTER" key. (You have to click the start button.). Sometimes doesn't find records that actually exist (but I couldn't reproduce this on Windows). I think it should be accessed by clicking on the third tool bar button - but this button is permanently greyed out.	0.125	Matt Rippa (JAC)	2
12128	Font size for template name too large	Bug	The font used for the name of a template instantiated in a hierarchy is too large	0.25	Nick Rees (Diamond)	2
12125	Awkward kink in wires when a connector anchor is added	Bug	Near-vertical wires shouldn't get an awkward kink in them when you add a connection anchor. This isn't intuitive.	0.5	Nick Rees (Diamond)	2
5037	Printing issues	Bug	Printing is a serious problem. There seems to be no way to print a moderate size database. The large, flatbed printers do not show as printer options. The options seem to be the same for all printers, even though the printers have different capabilities. When printing to smaller paper, the text is not readable or not there.	3	Ned Arnold (APS)	2
14	Visual cue when making links	Feature	When creating a link between two records, you use the context menu to select which link you're setting, at which point the pointer really ought to change shape to indicate that it's expecting you to click on the destination record.	0.25	Andrew Johnson (APS)	2	Reasonable suggestion
15	Highlight which record is inspected	Feature	Select or highlight the corresponding record when the Inspector selects or changes records.	1	Matt Rippa (JAC)	2	An additional suggestion is to add a "Centre" button to the Inspector window which, when pressed centers the record on the screen.
10333	On small zoom the records should blow up to become readable	Feature	I'm new to VDCT but I think it would make it much easier to follow a database if you could zoom way out and as you rolled the mouse over a record it blew up to become readable . Similar to the way a mac does the icon bar. This way you could see the flow of links without zooming in and out all the time.	1	Rich Diviero (APS)	2
13	Morph a template	Feature	Add the ability to morph a template in the same way you can morph a record.	1	Nick Rees (Diamond)	2	Reasonable suggestion
16	Multiple windows	Feature	Ability to have several VDCT windows opened. Copy-paste is allowed between windows. Two options: o) the second VDCT is started from the first VDCT, allowing for JVM sharing - any problems with singleton classes? o) each VDCT in its own JVM, Copy-paste mechanism is changed that it works with seriazable strings	5	Cosylab (Iztok Krapec)	2	Enable copy/paste between different windows. Use MDI.
127	Fields with two connectors		Value fields can only be linked to from one side, so if you have a database in which record A writes to record B, and record C reads from record B, there's no satisfactory way to show it. (gdct had "hooks" on both sides of target fields, and this was very helpful for complex databases.)	2	APS (David Kline)	2	This is a useful new feature
17	External query API	Feature	Define a interface that will allow VDCT to interact with other high-level tools - e.g. so it can query a relational database query for current field values. VDCT can give the link structure and the default value for fields, but the actual value should be able to be over-ridden by database values.	?	Various	3	This can be implemented as a plug-in
18	MACRO enhancements	Feature	Allow a simple arithmetic syntax in macro expansion. e.g. if $(basenum)=10 then $(basenum:+1)=11. I am happy for this to be restricted to a single operator and a pure number - arithmetic between two macros is probably too much. OTOH, I find Hex addition is appealing: e.g. if $(basename)=FF then $(basename:+0x3)=102, with the Hex result being generated because of the hex number being added. (BTW, I am not fussed about the syntax here - an alternative would be to borrow the Bash $(($(basename)+3)) syntax as an alternative). This may not be V4, but the concept of substitution and macros may be a bigger issue.		Nick Rees (Diamond)	3	This is useful if you have to change all values. Only the "basenum" would be changed and all numbers would change. This has to be discussed with EPICS community!
19	File Format	Feature	Clarify the file format so the graphics information obeys a defined standard (I don't like embedding things in comments). Rationalise the various ways of template expansion across all EPICS tools. Develop sandards for storing meta-data (for graphics, archiver, alarm handler, high-level device interfaces etc).		Nick Rees (Diamond)	3	Though it is a VDCT main feature to have only one file it is not good practice to store important information in the comments
8700	Port problem in VisualDCT	Bug	I really dont't know how to reproduce it, but I was doing port in variable.template and then I want to go one level up, and it crashed. It showed empty window afterwards and it didn't work to reload the file again. There is howerver one strange thing in this base from then on. It is in variables.template. One port is invisible and becomes invisible only if you focus on dol field of the related record.	Unknown	Gasper Jansa (Cosylab)	4	How to solve this, if not possible to reproduce. I got the same (if not that) report from SNS, but we failed to reproduce (after some additional fix).
22	Display less info at small zooms	Feature	When zoom level < 75%, do not display all the info about the fields (it is not readable anyway because the font is too small). Display just the Record name and type with in a larger font).	0.5	Cosylab (Gasper Jansa)	4	Not an important function.
23	If too long, display only part of record name	Feature	If the name of the record is too long, the font to display becomes too small and unreadable. In this case, display just the last n letters of the record, where n is set to some meaningful value or is customizable.	0.5	Cosylab (Iztok Krapec)	4	Not an important function.
21	Disable a record	Feature	It should be possible to disable a record. When a file is saved, the disabled records are commented out in the db file. Disabled records should be marked clearly in the GUI.	1	Cosylab (Gasper Pajor)	4	Not an important function.
24	Hierarchy delimiters	Feature	Enable more than one delimiter when generating a single capfast-style hierarchy. This may need to be discussed more widely since it may impact the EPICS V3.15 hierarchy. However, it recognizes that not everyone has chosen a single hierarchy delimiter (Diamond starts off with a – delimiter and changes it to : after a certain depth, mores the pity).	1	Nick Rees (Diamond)	4	Not an important function.
27	Specifiable background color	Feature	Ability to customize the background color	1	Cosylab (Krapec)	4	There would be problems with printing since the default background print colour is white, not black.
29	Colouring of the records	Feature	It should be possible to change colours of the records	1	Cosylab (Iztok Krapec)	4	Again, ensuring there are no colour clashes is not so easy.
28	Detachable preview window	Feature	At the moment, database preview window can only be located on the top right part of the application. It should be possible to detach the window and have it in a separate dialog	1.5	Cosylab (Iztok Krapec)	4	Not very important but could be done.
20	Debug plug-in and hierarchies	Feature	Make debug plug-in work on hierarchical databases (now it works only on flat databases).	5	SNS	4	This is a good idea, but it is unrelated to making VDCT a good visual database editor. Hence a longer term feature
26	Enhanced print preview and editor	Feature	Print preview with advanced capabilities: customization of the legend, drawing of additional objects over the print preview picture (for comments and highlighting). Saving of print preview settings as print templates (make a standard template for the lab). The objects have a customizer for setting background, line style, etc.	15	Cosylab	4
191	Non-heirarchical off page links/page formatting	Feature	Instead of making a large canvas and printing many tiled pages, have a non-heirachical link to another page so you don't have to glue many pages together after printing out a big database on A4. Each non-heirarchical page can be opened in its own window, instead of having one huge canvas Each link that goes out of the page should be marked automatically by VDCT	20	BESSY	3	This is a nice feature, but it is too big to implement at this time.
25	Debugging features	Feature	Start soft IOC on development machine from VDCT, Load database from VDCT directly to IOC, Add records on IOC (add and delete) with command from VDCT.		SNS	4
12294	FLNK'ing not possible from stand alone record	Bug	It's possbile to get into a state where the FLNK option is not available when you right click a record. Certainly if the record is already FLNK'ed this is what you want. But sometimes there is a stand alone record and FLNKing is not an option in the popup.		Matt Rippa (JAC)	5	For the moment, we'll assume that this is because FLNK is actually there, but hidden
45	Printing problems	Feature	Print preview needs to be improved. Printing options such as "extents" where it prints the entire drawing, "window" where it prints an area you can choose with the mouse, or "display" where it prints whatever is on the screen would help.	0.75	APS (David Kline)	5	See related feature request #36. There is a workaround for both "Print extents" and "Print Selection" and "Print display" is the default.
42	Connection directions	Feature	Show direction of connections.	1	SNS	5	Isn't current direction indication enough, see - http://www.cosylab.com/visualdct/builds/VisualDCT/2.4.1249/doc/MAN-VisualDCT_Users_Manual.html#record ; if not, maybe drawing arrows all through the line path is a better solution (as an option)?
44	Preserve record link order on copy	Feature	When a record is copied, the order of the links is sometimes not preserved, so it may take many menu selections to make a copy that can be used.	1	APS (David Kline)	5	Probably a repeat of bug #8731 - except that relates to templates, not records.
34	Substitution file editor	Feature	Make an editor for substitution files. Substitution file has a link to the template file. Every time a subs file is edited, search for all macros in the referenced template and if new macros are found, ask whether they should be added to subs file. Another option is to put some macros into "ignore list", saved in a substitution file as a comment. Provide a simple table to edit subs file values.	5	Cosylab (Igor Verstovsek)	5	VDCT is not a template file editor. It provides a different model for template instantiation. Use a normal editor for this.
41	Allow drawing capabilities for template shapes.	Feature	Requires the task “Different shapes for different record types”. In this case the user has the ability to create new shapes. In this case the port info is located within the shape itself, which requires additional implementation. Again, around 0.5 days of work is required to implement each new shape.	5	SNS	5	Not essential.
40	Different shapes for different record types	Feature	Provide a predefined set of shapes (without an editor to make new ones). Time estimate covers the implementation of this functionality in VDCT. In addition, around 0.5 days of work is required to implement each new shape.	10	SNS	5	Not essential.
43	Nicer record symbols	Feature	A record should be represented by an arbitrary polygon. Each record has a default shape, but it should be possible to change it. More important than changing the shape is the possibility to change the size of the polygon. This will allow the designer to create enough space for all links from/to this record. All links must be movable along the polygon outline. This will allow the designer to position all inputs on the left and all outputs on the right, for example	15	BESSY	5	This is similar to the two requests submitted by SNS for allowing different shapes for different record types. Hence, I have pencilled in a 15 day estimate. If this is correct, I think it should be funded separately if demand exists.
30	Generate files with .template extension.	Feature	At present, if you define something using $(<name>) and don't define <name>, it shows up the .db as $(<name>). It should be possible to call the generated file <filename>.template to use with a substitution file. (Actually, if a .db is generated with $(<name>), that might warrant a warning.)		SNS	5	You can manually type ".template" as the file extension, so you can effectively do this. I also want to focus on implementing the recursive hierarchy of VDCT, and this may become preferred over templates.
31	Cloning a template	Feature	Ability to quickly do a "clone" of the template, of course with another (file)name - this seems a simple & clean solution for the proposed feature: “Allow descent into a template file and rename it without renaming all of the top-level templates. Allow a way to choose which top-level instantiations will use the new file.” Cloning serves part of the purpose, but I also need to be able to morph some of the old template instances from the old template to the new one.		SNS	5	"Save as" provides 50% of the functionality required. The other 50% would come from providing the ability to morph a template.
32	Allow connections via labels just outside the record	Feature	Instead of having a connection that snakes all around a complicated diagram, just connect to a tab with a label ("A", perhaps) with a corresponding tab elsewhere on the diagram.		SNS	5	It is already possible to make a labeled connection.
33	Dialog with a list of records in a template	Feature	In case of a hierarchical template, the representation of all the records should be a tree		Cosylab (Krapec)	5	Spreadsheet view solves this request as well.
35	Resize drawing objects	Feature	Allow you to change the size of drawing objects (lines and boxes). At minimum provide at least one set of small symbols so that more records fit onto one screen.		Ralph Lange (BESSY)	5	The size of drawings can be changed by dragging the right bottom corner. It is not clear what is meant by one set of small symbols - this seems to be a reflection of a Capfast bias - VDCT has a different model for symbols.
36	Improve printing	Feature	print all, print current screen		Ralph Lange (BESSY)	5	Printing is currently always "print current screen". To print all type Ctrl-A, Shift-space, to zoom all, then print.
37	Change record type	Feature	Ability to change a record type (i.e., calc to sub) where the values for common fields and the record name are retained.		Stephanie Allison (SLAC)	5	This is done by "morph".
38	Quick Zoom	Feature	Full View keyboard short cut. (capfast "V-V" equivalent)		Matt Rippa (JAC)	5	Done. Use Ctrl-A, Shift-Space
39	Keyboard pan	Feature	Move or pan canvas with arrows (or some key combination independent of the mouse).		Matt Rippa (JAC)	5	Done. Use Ctrl-Up/Down/Left/Right Arrow

Capfast compatibility

1. Enable the Capfast converter to recognise Capfast macros. The are implemented via a horrible method of having a setX property (where X is any character). However, it would be nice if these properties were correctly recognised as macros.
2. Enable the Capfast converter to use the Capfast wire position points as hints as to where to place the vdct wires. The wires should at least have about the same number of segments.

Wishful thinking enhancements

1. More generally, improve the wire positioning and shape algorithm.... This is a big topic and needs thought. However, I don't believe people like the way it is at the moment.
2. Provide an "auto-placement" function, that when reading in non VDCT databases tries to place all records to 1) eliminate the overlap of records and 2) to minimize the crossing of links (auto-routing).
3. The merging of the concepts of an off-page input and a macro is confusing. I am not sure whether this is a problem, just thought I'd raise it.
4. Deprecate the group concept. I suspect the only people who use groups will want to move onto separate file hierarchies when they move to bigger systems? It seems to be a dead end - a nice idea, but not what I want. (I know this is controversial because some people use groups...)
5. Visualization of the process chain (an EPICS database simulator)
6. Show links between groups (display a group as a "meta-record") display external links also in the "group" displays. (Editors note: I think this is has really been implemented in hierarchy implementation, but I have it here because it came from the old VDCT page).